Comments on: IDN Series Questions & Answers http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/ Domain blog featuring domain investing strategy, domain valuation, and domain development commentary from Elliot Silver, founder of Top Notch Domains, LLC. Thu, 24 Apr 2014 08:36:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.7.3 By: Drewbert http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-30843 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:02:34 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-30843 And THEN they take the “closing soon” auctions off the main page!

What sort of IDIOT takes the closing soon auctions off the main page of a domain auction website?

(Maybe Sam will se it this time)

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By: Sam Nunez http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-30842 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:50:36 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-30842 Gary,

Re: you point #1

Have a look it the new search on Sedo.com, we’ve expanded coverage for languages. Also the new semantic relevance algorithm should improve relevance, at least for the most common languages (we’ll expand to all languages with time)

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By: Drewbert http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-19136 Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:19:14 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-19136 “Advanced” search at SEDO has always been a joke.

Try getting a list of all the Spanish domains for sale.

You get an error back “Please provide one or more additional criteria for your search: domain name or keyword, category, or date added.”

So you set “Date added” to “last 3 months” and you get an error back “Please provide one or more additional criteria for your search: domain name or keyword, category, or date added.”

The UI from hell.

And THEN they take the “closing soon” auctions off the main page!

What sort of IDIOT takes the closing soon auctions off the main page of a domain auction website?

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By: SEDO: SUPPORT FOR RUSSIAN IDN - IDN Forums - Internationalised Domain Names http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-19127 Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:59:34 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-19127 [...] Posted by sarcle Can I search for them? good question __________________ IDN Demystified IDN Tools IDN Newsletter IDN [...]

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By: Gary http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-19126 Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:49:48 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-19126 @Sam

I see you’ve added the ability to now list all foreign language domains for sale – that’s great.

Is this the end of your development?

IMO there are 2 key elements missing:

1) You haven’t made any changes to the Domain Search screen, so a prospective buyer still only has the option of choosing between English, German, French or Spanish.
Suppose I wanted to list all Russian domains in the Shopping category. How would I do that?
When adding a domain for sale, this info is populated (language & category) – so it surely must be easy to add that functionality?

2) And probably the biggest barrier to entry is the User Interface itself, this needs to be multi-lingual to have any chance of success in marketing & selling IDNs to non-English speakers.

Great start so far. I’m keen to hear your thoughts/plans for the remainder of the implementation.

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By: Trafficdomainer http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18992 Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:56:59 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18992 @Gary Thanks about asking about Thai

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By: Sam Nunez http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18982 Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:25:07 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18982 Yes, full UTF-8 support.

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By: lee hodgson http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18945 Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:02:34 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18945 what does multi-byte mean sedo? please enlighten us all. its just utf-8. go to a class if you don’t understand it. i know you guys can all afford classes.

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By: Drewbert http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18891 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:20:24 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18891 Assuming your enduring support for Swahili* includes having a Swahili UI so all those Swahili businesses can buy their Swahili domains without having to learn English or German to do so, one would also have to assume that your upcoming support for Russian, Japanese etc etc will include the UI necessary for people who use those languages to get on your system and navigate through it to buy said domains?

* and let’s not forget Walloon too!

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By: Normm http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18877 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:51:44 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18877 @Sam

Good news but I will believe it when I see it.

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By: Gary http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18868 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:36:18 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18868 @Sam

that’s great news!

Can you confirm, will this by default also include all other UTF-8 character sets such as Russian, Hebrew, Thai etc?

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By: Aaron Krawitz http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18861 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:08:52 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18861 @Sam – That’s fantastic news!!

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By: Sam Nunez http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18859 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:49:50 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18859 Gary, Normm,
Sedo will add support for Chinese, Japanese and other “multi-byte” characters IDNs starting next week,
Thanks for all your feedbak and input,
Regards,

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By: Normm http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18560 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:28:24 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18560 Sam,

As others have mentioned we have been hearing about how Sedo would be fully supporting IDN sales for years now. 2 examples come to mind: A Sedo representative posted on a Japanese board in 2007 that there would soon be a Japanese version of the Sedo site at Sedo.jp. What happened? NADA. In Jan 2009 a Sedo rep posted on IDNForums.com that a sales platform for Non Latin IDN sales was a ‘High Priority’… That was over a year ago and now you are pretty much telling us the same thing again. Don’t be surprised that I do not believe you.

The demand for this is tremendous and someone is going to recognize the potential and act upon it. At this point Sedo has squandered any good will that it had. If someone else provides the service myself and many others will be there with open arms and we will do our best to make it a success.

If Sedo still wants the IDN prize you had better start doing something concrete about it rather than continuing to feed us BS about ‘very shortly’. We don’t believe that anymore. Your window of opportunity is closing.

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By: translator http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18554 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:33:51 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18554 Don’t knock Swahili. I see Swahili domains in SEDO’s top 10 sales almost every month!

Keep up the er, good job Sedo.

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By: Drewbert http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18553 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:13:57 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18553 The weird thing is, their web site is UTF-8, so it appears that the 5 year delay is trying to find someone who can convert a bunch of databases from ISO to Unicode – a 5 minute job.

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By: Gary http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18552 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:02:21 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18552 @Sam

thank you for the feedback.

I hear you on you saying you will eliminate the restriction shortly; but with respect, we have heard that same message delivered from half a dozen Sedo reps that turn up on IDNforums over the past 5 years.

If you could even commit to a vague timetable, that would indeed be a huge step in the right direction, otherwise, quite frankly it’s just another hollow promise.

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By: Drewbert http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18551 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:02:03 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18551 >Our coverage however has been very broad for a long time. We
>fully support:

Gotta have that broad support for Swahili and Walloon!

Far more important and popular languages than Russian Arabic Hebrew and Chinese!

Another SEDO EPIC FAIL.

Jesus wept.

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By: Sam Nunez http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18550 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:54:23 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18550 Gary, we are definitely committed to fully support every single character on the planet very shortly.

Our coverage however has been very broad for a long time. We fully support:
* Afrikaans
* Albanian
* Breton
* Catalan
* Danish
* English (UK and US)
* Faroese
* Galician
* German
* Icelandic
* Irish (new orthography)
* Italian
* Kurdish (The Kurdish Unified Alphabet)
* Latin (basic classical orthography)
* Leonese
* Luxembourgish (basic classical orthography)
* Norwegian (Bokmål and Nynorsk)
* Occitan
* Portuguese (Portuguese and Brazilian)
* Rhaeto-Romanic
* Scottish Gaelic
* Spanish
* Swahili
* Swedish
* Walloon
* Basque

We have full support of the following except for some extremely rare cases:

# Dutch (missing IJ, ij but these should always be represented as IJ or ij in electronic form)
# Estonian (missing Š, š, Ž, ž for loan words)
# Old English and French (missing Œ, œ and the very rare Ÿ; they are generally replaced by ‘OE’ and ‘oe’ without the normally required ligature, and ‘Y’ without the diaeresis)
# Finnish (missing Š, š, Ž, ž for loan words)
# Hungarian (missing Ő, ő, Ű, ű)
# Welsh (missing Ŵ, ŵ, Ŷ, ŷ)

more info on this wiki page

When you try to list a chinese character on Sedo.com you will indeed get a message saying such domain cannot be sold yet. I apologize for this annoyance and we’ll eliminate this restriction very shortly.

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By: Gary http://www.domaininvesting.com/idn-series-questions-answers/#comment-18549 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:34:42 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=4894#comment-18549 @Sam

Sedo fully supports parking of all IDNs, yes I absolutely agree.

But as far as the ability to list for sale, you can handle very very few, and seem to be limited to a handful of accented characters; and even in some bizarre situations, can only handle a subset of an alphabet in some languages.

This is extremely frustrating as you can imagine, and you can see the frustration first hand in a recent article on my blog at idndemystified.com

I think I speak for all IDN domain holders when I say I hope you will be true to your word of supporting the remainder of languages soon.

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