Comments on: Jason Calacanis Moves Launch Festival Website to Launch.CO http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/ Domain blog featuring domain investing strategy, domain valuation, and domain development commentary from Elliot Silver, founder of Top Notch Domains, LLC. Thu, 24 Apr 2014 05:24:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.7.3 By: AB http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65593 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:04:56 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65593 I’ve posted this before but I’ll post again here since it’s sort of on-topic.

If you enter “Robert Cline” in an anagram generator you get…

Terrible Con

Happy Friday!!!

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By: Man http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65588 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:55:14 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65588 Johnnie and Robert Cline forever in love … sorry forever in Troll LOL

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By: Robert Cline http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65579 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 11:10:20 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65579 funds received – $1,500.00

LPE.Co Sold $1,500.00

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By: Robert Cline http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65561 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 03:28:47 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65561 The .CO domain has become one of the most sucessful new domain extensions in the world since it was launched in the summer of 2010 – and the number of registrations keeps growing! It’s so close to the .COM and .CO.UK – but shorter and easier to remember.

but shorter and easier to remember.

but shorter and easier to remember.

but shorter and easier to remember.

this is the key !

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65550 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 02:02:45 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65550 @ Johnnie

Yes, I believe I let them drop. As I continue to mention, I am not an active .CO investor or buyer and have no stake. .CO has paid for the single rotating banner for the full year in advance, whether I write anything or not.

Anyway, I do appreciate your coming here and commenting. It’s always good to hear a different opinion on things, and I am certainly not the be all end all when it comes to .CO.

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By: Johnnie http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65549 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:59:48 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65549 Joe:

“Funny that you even took the time to count all my posts, proof that some people waste too much time minding others’ business instead of theirs.”

I didn’t, I clicked 1 link, took me a whopping second or two. Little forum trick, go to that thread, click on 7,956 replies, it’ll list:
Who Posted?
Total Posts: 7,957
Sorted by name and post count. You have the second most replies in that thread.

Elliot:
“Bahamas.CO
Elliot.CO
ElliotsBlog.CO

That’s it. Just 3 that I could find.”

Ok, the 6 I mentioned was from another post of yours from last year about o.co and the brand being here to stay, looks like you sold/let expire a few of them.

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By: Joe http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65548 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:55:14 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65548 @Johnnie

“That’s interesting since you have 770 posts in the .co thread over at Namepros. I venture to guess you have a lot more than you’re letting on.”

As for the number of .CO names I own, they’re absolutely less than 20, but of course you’re free to believe what you wish. Believing in an extension’s potential doesn’t necessarily mean you have to buy hundreds of names. Funny that you even took the time to count all my posts, proof that some people waste too much time minding others’ business instead of theirs.

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65547 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:48:19 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65547 @ Johnnie

As I said, Kevin and Rick wrote articles about it practically before I woke up, and there was no reason to re-write what they wrote.

I just double checked and the only .CO names I own:

Bahamas.CO
Elliot.CO
ElliotsBlog.CO

That’s it. Just 3 that I could find. Yes, I did get Bahamas.CO as part of the founders program and developed it as per the requirement. I have been 100% clear about that.

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By: Johnnie http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65546 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:45:37 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65546 “My name links to a .CO but I own a total of 15-16 .COs. Judging by the heat you’re posting here, I’d say you own at least ten times that .coms”

That’s interesting since you have 770 posts in the .co thread over at Namepros. I venture to guess you have a lot more than you’re letting on. And I’m not posting heat, my blood pressure is not going up 1 point talking about domains. It seems talking about .co and potential problems upsets some people, that’s more telling than anything.

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By: Johnnie http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65545 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:41:33 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65545 Elliot, one thing I find interesting is you’ll post positive things about .co and not stuff like 61% bleed out rate. It’s the only non .com you have listed under Current Silver Internet Ventures, LLC Projects: and got the Bahamas.co thru the Founders Program.

And then seeing the defensive posts after that, not really going into the points I bring up.

“Out of curiosity, do you own a lot of non .com domain names as investments?”

.com is my favorite. I also have .us, .me and other extensions. It’s obvious I don’t like .co for the reasons I posted about. A lot of what goes into the value of an extension is development. I’m not a big fan of extensions that will bleed to the .com.

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By: Joe http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65544 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:40:36 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65544 @Johnnie

My name links to a .CO but I own a total of 15-16 .COs. Judging by the heat you’re posting here, I’d say you own at least ten times that .coms

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65543 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:36:44 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65543 @ Johnnie

Out of curiosity, do you own a lot of non .com domain names as investments? One thing I find interesting is that it seems people who invest in a lot of non .com names feel threatened by .CO and want to bash it. I think all the advertising .CO is doing brings awareness to the domain industry and is good for us all.

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By: Johnnie http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65542 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:36:38 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65542 Joe, funny your name links to a .co, talk about insecure. I know you’ve invested a lot in .co. It’s because I didn’t see Elliot’s last comment in his post, don’t know if it was added after I read the first part, so I responded.

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By: Joe http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65541 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:34:25 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65541 @ Johnnie

Why are you wasting all that time leaving a post after another if you just dislike the topic? One comment to express your (respected, as everyone else’s) opinion would be more than enough. They say overreacting is a sign of insecurity.

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65540 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:30:21 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65540 @ Johnnie

Because Domain Incite wrote one and Rick Schwartz wrote one shortly thereafter. I no longer report Afternic/Sedo sales very often because Mike Berkens reports them almost instantly. I didn’t report an article about Protrada’s new development platform or Morgan Linton’s Appraiso website because others beat me and I couldn’t add to what they wrote.

Unfortunately for me, Kevin from Domain Incite is in the UK and is 6 hours ahead of me. When news is reported elsewhere overnight, I don’t re-post something very similar, unless I didn’t see it first. I don’t like to see repetitive stories on Domaining.com as much as the next guy, so I don’t do it.

The only times you see me report something the same as someone else is when the news breaks in the middle of the day and we post it around the same time or if I can add something to a story. With respect to that story, I don’t think there was much to add.

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By: Johnnie http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65539 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:27:04 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65539 “May I ask why you only seem to comment on my blog when it comes to .CO domain names? ”

I find the topic interesting.

On a side note, unless the search function isn’t working properly, the last Overstock post you started was:

Overstock Continues O.co Branding With Launch of Travel Brand
January 4, 2012

Leans more to neutral/positive.

How come you didn’t write one on the 61% loss of traffic to the .com? Get into that topic. That was pretty big news on other blogs/forums.

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By: Johnnie http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65538 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:09:28 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65538 “Let me be crystal clear about this. I own fewer than 10 .CO domain names and maybe less than 5. My business is impacted immaterially by .CO happenings. I have never sold a .CO domain name.”

I know, you said you owned 6 before, including Bahamas. If you want to sell them in the future, positive news will be better than negative news obviously. Not saying that’s why you post about it, I understand people follow .co but it doesn’t hurt.

“I agree about the Overstock bleed, BUT there’s a big difference between Overstock and a startup using .CO. Overstock tried to shift their customer behavior”

They built their brand on Overstock, not the letter o. The news of the 61% bleed out rate was people trying to going to o.com (not overstock.com) after seeing o.co. So I imagine, even if you start on .co, out of habit, people are so used to typing the letter m after the c and o, it’s going to happen. So why would you start on an extension where that’s more likely to happen, when you can go for another extension, if you can’t get the .com you wanted?

Can we agree that .co is the closest extension out there to .com? Again, if you can’t get the .com, you want to go with one the closest to .com, bleed out and one that will cause confusion? Even 1 customer going to the .com, trying to get to your .co site, is not a good thing. Bad user experience. When you’ll have less a chance of that, with another non .com extension.

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65532 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 00:49:14 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65532 @ Johnnie

Let me be crystal clear about this. I own fewer than 10 .CO domain names and maybe less than 5. My business is impacted immaterially by .CO happenings. I have never sold a .CO domain name.

“Did it say anything when Jason went with .is first?”

I can’t be everywhere at every time to see what extension every startup and influential person chooses. I happen to think it’s news when a company with an influential founder changes its url. Someone sent me this information and I posted an article about it. I know that a good portion of my readers follow .CO, so I post articles that I find interesting. I don’t think anything in my article is inaccurate, and I gave my opinion in addition to reporting what happened.

“There is no big shift to .co. It’s still 90% + .com and if they can’t get the keywords they want, they go for various other extensions. ”

I never said there was any shift whatsoever. I did say if startups use .CO domain names, it could lead to more awareness of .CO.

I agree about the Overstock bleed, BUT there’s a big difference between Overstock and a startup using .CO. Overstock tried to shift their customer behavior. They built their brand over many years and I guess expected to shift behavior in a years time. This was aggressive. This is much different, though, than a company that starts with a .CO. Yes, I do think they may have issues and could need to buy the .com at a later date, but one would logically assume that they would be able to afford the .com if they were losing so much traffic.

May I ask why you only seem to comment on my blog when it comes to .CO domain names? I appreciate the feedback but don’t understand why some people who visit often only comment on .CO news stories.

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By: Johnnie http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65531 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 00:38:59 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65531 “The conference changed its url to .CO and that says something to others who follow the startup scene.”

Did it say anything when Jason went with .is first? Where were the domain blog posts when that first happened? I guess you didn’t see them because domain bloggers don’t invest in .is, like some do in .co.

Again, in this case, launch.co makes more sense than .is, because it’s about launching companies. But, again, take time to actually go thru list of new companies, startups etc. There is no big shift to .co. It’s still 90% + .com and if they can’t get the keywords they want, they go for various other extensions.

And the problem with .co, that it will never escape, is it’s the closest to .com, so it’s a bleeder extension. You saw that recently with news of a 61% bleed out rate with Overstock. Is it smart actually developing on a .co when you know you will lose traffic to the .com, more than any other extension out there? No, it’s kinda dumb.

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/jason-calacanis-moves-launch-festival-website-to-launch-co/#comment-65530 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 00:32:37 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13626#comment-65530 I find it very interesting that certain people only comment on certain types of articles, like .CO or gTLDs.

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