Report: Adam Dicker of DNForum Files Lawsuit Against Owner of DNF.CA | DomainInvesting.com

Report: Adam Dicker of DNForum Files Lawsuit Against Owner of DNF.CA

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I was just sent a link to a blog post written by Samer Jouaneh and posted on DNF.CA, in which Jouaneh discusses a lawsuit filed against him by DNForum owner, Adam Dicker. The lawsuit is over Jounah’s ownership and operation of DNF.CA, described as the “domain name forum for Canadians.”

Dicker owns the DNF.com domain name, and it forwards to DNForum. It’s alleged that people commonly refer to DN Forum as DNF (similar to how I refer to Domain Boardroom simply as DBR). I have used DNF.com in the past to directly navigate to DNForum and I am sure I’ve called it DNF in the past.

I believe both parties reside in Canada, and I also believe the lawsuit was filed in Canada.

According to Jouaneh, “On June 15th,2011 Domain Consulting Group Inc. (Alleged Owner of DNFORUM.com) filed a lawsuit against me personally (Samer Jouaneh) and claimed I was allegedly infringing on their website.”

In the post, Jouaneh refers to some of the allegations against him and alleges that “the line that was used in the Statement of Claim is completely fabricated.” Jouaneh posted screenshots and links to Archive.org in response to allegations made in the lawsuit.

I personally don’t think it’s wise for Jouaneh to post details of his case in a public forum like his website, but I suppose that is between his lawyer and him. I am not a lawyer, so I am not going to comment on whether I believe Jouaneh has rights to use DNF.CA as a domain forum, but this will certainly be an interesting case to watch progress.


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Comments (28)

    Samer

    Always appreciate your point of view Elliot. I will let the facts speak for themselves.

    August 25th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    wzhxvy

    What is their to allege ? People are not blind. Click the links. The posts were changed. They dont say they were edited by anyone…they have the same date but magically they say very different things. And they benefit the claim in the lawsuit.

    Is anyone disputing whats on Archive.org ?

    Altered posts and then used in a lawsuit. Elliott, you recognize what this is correct ? If I post on a forum, I do not expect my posts to be changed, and worst then used in a lawsuit against me. People in the domain industry need to stand up and be counted here.

    August 25th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Acro

    There has been extensive coverage and arguments from both parties at http://domaingang.com/domain-news/battle-of-canadian-domainers-dnf-com-sues-dnf-ca/

    August 25th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Scott

    I personally don’t care for Adam and the way he conducts his business (and calls out all the hard working bloggers). I have to say that it does look like Adam edited his posts as the archives show a different story all together.

    August 25th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    wzhxvy

    Acro, I know you have your own mind and opinion. The lawsuit is the lawsuit and it will proceed. Click the links Acro and be the judge. Domainers have a horrible reputation and we are making it harder for ourselves by dancing around this.

    August 25th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    Arty

    The DNF.ca logo looks a lot like the (trademarked) logo from http://our.ca.

    August 25th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    wzhxvy

    Nice try at a deflection Arty. Now we are discussing logos. Sometimes I wonder.

    August 25th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    Mark

    It is clear samer was a dnforum member and new about the reputation of dnf.com. The lawsuit will be settled in court and Samer will lose based on this fact. Change your forum name and man up Samer. Your smear campaings just make you look childish. This matter won’t be settled on blogs by you or your multiple personalities that keep posting. The more you say on blogs, the weaker you make your case.

    August 25th, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Samer

    Truth hurts huh Mark?

    August 25th, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Jack

    WOW! If the the information posted in that thread at DNF.ca it sounds like someone needs to be charged with a crime.

    August 25th, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    Jack

    WOW! If the information posted in that thread at DNF.ca is true then it sounds like someone needs to be charged with a crime. No way that can be legal.

    August 25th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    Samer

    Jack,

    Thanks for reading, you can view the information yourself through archive.org.

    Adam has already removed DNF.com being for sale on ShowcaseManager.com.

    That’s okay, I have evidence. “DCG” can explain it in court.

    August 25th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Scott

    So he removed the for sale too? He really should have thought out his lawsuit more thoroughly as it seems like he is trying to plug all the holes. You did the right thing by taking screenshots and detailing everything. Adam is giving domainers a very bad name. And like I said before, I still have a sour taste from when he attacked all the bloggers out there. He thinks he is Rick SwHe’s acting no different than companies that try to reverse hijack names via WIPO and the like. Rick Schwartz and Frank Schilling he is not, though I do think he thinks he is. Stay strong Samer. Nobody likes a bully.

    August 25th, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Farhan

    Adam you have sunk to a new low. Not only do you not respect your members which is clearly evident but to submit fabricated evident in a court in Ontario ??!! Do you have any respect or regard to anything ? I hope charges are laid because the court system needs to make an example of people like you. You clearly have no moral judgement. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    August 25th, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    Another Adam

    “The DNF.ca logo looks a lot like the (trademarked) logo from http://our.ca.”

    because they both use a maple leaf ? The logos have different fonts, colors, layout, handling of the maple leaf etc. I’m sure this was a joke or maybe even a commentary on the interpretation of trademarks :)

    August 25th, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    Samer

    Scott,

    Thanks for the support.

    I also have a copy of the post that he deleted regarding domainers not being experts unless they make 500K per year. Unedited of course.

    August 25th, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    AB

    Nothing to add here (I am clueless to this case) but I’d be curious to see where these randon “first name only” posters are posting from.

    August 25th, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    Samer

    That is actually a funny comment from a guy who posts with two initials. AB, please get educated on this, read the links and make your own judgement.

    August 25th, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Jay M

    lol Elliot can actually tell from ip addresses about who is who and if they are same person posting under different aliases. But hey something about this:

    “The DNF.ca logo looks a lot like the (trademarked) logo from http://our.ca.”

    Both logos are quite different form eachother, as someone stated above, fonts, design, graphics, nothing really matches there bud! :)

    And I’m watching this case..

    August 25th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    LS Morgan

    For whatever Dicker may or may not be doing to manipulate the facts, it remains that you deliberately chose the name “DNF” as an acronym for a Domain Name Forum (called “Domain Name Forum”) many years after there was a well established DNF in that same field.

    You’re either the least creative human on earth, or the dumbest. I have no respect for copy-cat ankle biters who rip off a successful concept because they’re too useless to think up anything worthwhile with their own brain.

    Seriously, you could’ve named it ANYTHING but you chose to lean on the existing enterprise and become a knock-off artist. So totally hope you lose. Absolutely hate guys like you.

    Sincerely:

    A creator.

    August 25th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Jelly

    What’s next … guy with lol.com sues the lol.ca because both sites are about laugh out loud? I’d say if they were both something more unique like: Domain Name Empire or Domain Name Kingdom … but you can’t trademark something like Domain Name Forum or Domain Name Search. Even the acronym means the same thing. On top of that.. the dnf.com guy doesn’t stand a chance if he didn’t trademark dnf in canada. Dnf.ca guy is canadian, operates the site in canada and is targeted towards canadians…

    August 26th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Gnanes

    @Jelly They’re both from the same province and city.

    August 26th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Samer

    We are not from the same city.

    August 26th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    LindaM

    I do not know and have no dealings with either party in this case. I personally would like to see this case settled (or dismissed). Unless the court delivers an extremely articulate and well thought out verdict, whichever way it goes is going to be bad for everyone.
    Either you can successfully enforce tm on blatantly generic terms like ‘domain name forum’ and use this to stake claim on ‘DNF.xx’ (insane) OR you can brazenly copy someone else’s work, ideas and get off scot free. Imo both suck.
    I’ll be ordering in extra popcorn for this one.

    August 26th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    Jay M

    Elliot, There’s an update over at DNF.com by Adam that “Samer lost his motion to dismiss the case, and was ordered to pay part of Adam Dicker’s court costs.”

    This should be interesting, can I share some of your popcorn’s Linda? 😛

    August 26th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    LindaM

    I guess if dismissal is not happening then unless they settle its popcorn time, so sure you can share – u bring the beers.

    *NOT* with respect to this case because I do not know all the facts, but…
    Its sad to see times when people fight instead and cannot come to agreement that would save both time, energy and money whatever the outcome. I cannot help but feel in these cases that at least 1 and possibly both parties MUST be irrational.

    August 26th, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    bbb

    Dick er should be ashamed of .

    August 26th, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    Dave Zan

    Either you can successfully enforce tm on blatantly generic terms like ‘domain name forum’

    Which Mr. Dicker isn’t. He’s trying to show the letters DNF has acquired TM rights as an online forum for domain name topics, and that Mr. Jouaneh’s domain registration is infringing on that trademark.

    For example, the letters WBC are being used by the World Boxing Council, the World Barista Championship, and the World Boardgaming Championships. None of them have exclusivity over the acronym WBC, yet one can’t force the other to stop using WBC as long as what they’re doing doesn’t sufficiently confuse users.

    Currently it appears both Mr. Dicker and Mr. Jouaneh are trying to show common law TM rights for DNF. One catch is Mr. Dicker can show where Mr. Jouaneh arguably came up with the idea for DNF.ca, and that’s despite his editing the latter’s posts in DNForum.

    I too wish both parties can settle, but I guess that’s not going to happen.

    August 27th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

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