Comments on: Things to Look for When Finding End User Buyers http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/ Domain blog featuring domain investing strategy, domain valuation, and domain development commentary from Elliot Silver, founder of Top Notch Domains, LLC. Thu, 24 Apr 2014 06:39:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.7.3 By: Michael http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25708 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 03:25:06 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25708 Louise, thanks for doing that, but I was just using catfish as an example because that’s what Jorge used above me.

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By: Louise http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25707 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 03:23:16 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25707 @ Michael, Here you go:

catfishhodge.com
buycatfish.com
catfishphoto.com
corydorascatfish.com
catfishfeeding.com
redtailedcatfish.com
catfishhabitat.com
littlecatfish.com
shovelnosecatfish.com
pangasiuscatfish.com
sharkcatfish.com
typesofcatfish.com
catfishstinkbait.com
catfishimages.com
catfishcarp.com

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By: Rob Monster - Epik http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25706 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 02:35:57 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25706 @Logan, @Elliot – The sending feature requires a paid membership. The sending cost is low but it is countermeasure to prevent people from using the system to spam. We’ll look into making this more clear. To date, we mostly have introduced it to a few clients who are wanting help with selling their domains.

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By: Michael http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25705 Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:30:38 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25705 @Mike – That’s very close to what I’m looking for, but precisely what I want would be search results with:

KeywordCatfish.com or
CatfishKeyword.com or
Catfish.tld (you solved this one)

With Keyword being a wild card (*).

I tried doing “site:*catfish.*” and that gave me KeywordCatfish.— as you suggested, but I get no results when I try these:

site:*catfish.com
site:catfish*.com
site:*catfish*.com

Not sure why, but it is already closer to what I’m trying to get. Thanks for the help. If anyone stumbles across how to do it please let me know.

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By: Elliot http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25704 Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:37:42 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25704 @ Logan

I had the same issue when I tried a couple of tests. I tried sending end user emails using my own domain names as a test and they failed.

Also, I would recommend filtering sites like Yahoo, Bing, Wikipedia….etc, as it would be extremely unlikely that an email to the whois contact would result in a sale.

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By: Mike http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25703 Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:37:10 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25703 @Michael, not exactly what you are asking for, but one thing you can do is to enter in a ‘*’ for the tld of any keyword you want to search for to see results for that keyword in every tld that is indexed. for example, to search all catfish.— sites, you would enter:

site:catfish.*

this is just a quick way to see all the extensions for sites of that keyword that are actually indexed, plus what titles and meta-descriptions they use, and who ranks highest/lowest. also can generally tell who is parked by the meta-description

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By: Logan http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25702 Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:35:37 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25702 @Rob – when I tried EndUserGenie.com, none of the emails would go through. They always said Failed or Banned or some such. I got this same response using the provided mail router and using my own SMTP mail server configuration. I find it odd that ALL would receive such a response.

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By: Rob Monster - Epik http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25691 Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:40:48 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25691 @randomo – Thanks for the feedback. The site is still beta. We use it internally so please pound on it and send feedback. My email is rob -at- epik.com . It works, but it is not ready for public launch. We have given a few power users and clients pre-launch access while we finish development and testing. I have been using it for weeks.

@Michael – A small tip a propos your original question: if you click on any of the suggested names that the EndUserGenie finds, it will go find all related names even if they are not live and developed.

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By: randomo http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25690 Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:35:08 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25690 @Rob – That looks like an interesting tool. One little quirk on the site: when I tried to create an account, I had to check a box that said “Agree to terms?” – but I couldn’t find the terms anywhere. Maybe I’m overlooking something obvious.

(I understand that since this is an unannounced tool, it may not be polished; just wanted to point this out FYI.)

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By: Louise http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25689 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:52:29 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25689 @ Rob, that was exciting – I signed up for Auctions.epik.com and EndUserGenie.com, but I think I have to be approved or notified of the auction before I can send out a listing . . .

Playing the Drop Market panel at TRAFFIC Las Vegas was interesting, which I caught the tail end of so now I can place a face to your name. Good job on your web projects, including Epik auction, because the interface is uncluttered, simple, and fast! Hope it works out! :)

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By: Nuno Alex Oliveira http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25688 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:00:21 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25688 Hello Michael,

Such a search operator doesn’t exist. I researched and asked several people but it seems that for now we don’t have any luck.
Some services can give a close result, but none has all tld’s.

Best Regards,

Nuno

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By: Rob Monster - Epik http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25683 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:34:04 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25683 @Michael – You can try out a tool we built for locating end-clients. It is called EndUserGenie.com. It is not a tool that we have announced but it works. It finds the targets, mails to them and tracks who has been mailed what in a portfolio.

FYI, this is actually how I sold MensJewelryRings.com for $6500 after drop-catching it. We sold it at our auction site — auctions.epik.com. In other words, I use EndUserGenie.com to send leads to visit the auction listing at auctions.epik.com.

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By: Michael http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25678 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:00:25 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25678 Does anyone know how to do a search similar to “inurl:catfish” but only for the keyword in the domain? That search will come up with stuff like http://blah.com/catfish-are-yummy.html which isn’t as useful. I’d like something similar to http://*catfish*.com with * being a wild card.

Also, wondering what you guys think about CC as opposed to separate emails. I always hear that you should send them individually, but I can’t help thinking if you send an email to admin@coke.com AND admin@pepsi.com, that it would spark their sense of urgency and competition knowing for a fact that their competitor is being given the same opportunity and whoever pounces first wins.

Love to hear your thoughts. Thanks.

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By: jorge http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25676 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:30:43 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25676 You should also look for companies that have similar .COM domains but longer than yours. So if you have “catfish.com”, you might be able to sell to the owner of KentuckyCatfish.com.

You can find these kinds of domains on google with a search like:

inurl:catfish

This will give you a list of sites that have catfish in the URL (not necessarily the domain, but it’s a good start).

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By: Elliot http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25675 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:22:29 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25675 @ Mitch

Very good suggestion. In fact, you can often find links to “affiliate program” or “partners” on websites, and that will lead you to the right person. Oftentimes affiliate program managers will understand the value better than others at the company.

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By: Mitch http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25674 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:18:40 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25674 If you’ve got that perfect targeted domain,
don’t overlook finding some (get your foot in the door) email/phone contacts through affiliate advertisers at cj, etc.
You can’t find these on the websites, or whois contact info.

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By: Elliot http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25673 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:58:14 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25673 @ Kevin

Doesn’t happen to me much. Can’t remember the last time actually.

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By: Kevin Murphy http://www.domaininvesting.com/things-to-look-for-when-finding-end-user-buyers/#comment-25672 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:57:10 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=5543#comment-25672 I’ve found these end user posts very interesting, but there’s one thing I’m not sure you’ve addressed yet:

When you cold-email a potential buyer, how often do you get a nasty response? There’s plenty of people out there who confuse speculation with squatting.

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