Comments on: Video: Why LeWeb Moved to .CO http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/ Domain blog featuring domain investing strategy, domain valuation, and domain development commentary from Elliot Silver, founder of Top Notch Domains, LLC. Thu, 24 Apr 2014 01:16:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.7.3 By: Acro.net – Technology Rants & Raves by Acroplex® » Blog Archive » Oh, to be a cybersquatter! http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69415 Fri, 11 May 2012 16:02:36 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69415 [...] ‘cybersquatter‘ references in the seemingly light-hearted discussion between the .CO CEO and the LeWeb CEO, [...]

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By: jp http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69386 Fri, 11 May 2012 01:33:41 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69386 Give it a year or 2, soon .co registrations will be about the same price as .com. Let supply and demand do their thing first.

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By: Dot Co Wants To Have Their Cake, Eat It, and Then Throw it At the Domain Investor Who Baked It | Domain Shane http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69384 Fri, 11 May 2012 00:24:37 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69384 [...] I have to chime in on the beatdown of Juan Calle and dot co regarding the video of the LeWeb “Couldn’t get the dot com so I’ll take the dot co” [...]

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By: rayy http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69380 Thu, 10 May 2012 23:35:33 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69380 Juan Calle doesn’t know “domain squatters” definition and therefore cause big insult to domain investors. In this video, It’s wrong that Juan called big domain investors as domain squatters.

Just want to make it clear, Domain investors who bought non-trademark names such as generic names ( eg. coffee.com ) are NOT domain squatters.

But domainers who bought “trademark names” ( eg. BuyCocaCola.com ) are the domain squatters.

Hope this will clear the definition of domain squatters.

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By: rob sequin http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69365 Thu, 10 May 2012 21:38:00 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69365 Fine. I think we all agree with Juan that cybersquatters are scum but Loïc Le Meur said that the person who owns LeWeb.com is a cybersquatter simply for owning a domain that he wants.

So, Juan, would you like to help Mr. Le Meur understand the difference?

He insulted your business and your industry and you just smiled… then wrote a blog post deflected the issue.

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69364 Thu, 10 May 2012 21:33:09 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69364 Here’s my response to Juan’s blog post: http://www.domaininvesting.com/juan-diego-calle-responds-to-comments-9101

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By: Domainsville.com http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69363 Thu, 10 May 2012 21:31:24 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69363 Juan of .CO Registry responds via blog post: http://www.domainsville.com/FeedItem/126472

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By: Johnnie http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69361 Thu, 10 May 2012 20:22:01 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69361 It was dumb to pick a name/start a business when you didn’t have the .com for that business to begin with.

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By: Brad Mugford http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69360 Thu, 10 May 2012 20:13:22 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69360 Nice sense of entitlement there.

There are three options -

1.) Pay for the best option – .COM (if for sale).
2.) Try to use UDRP to steal a domain.
3.) Settle for a much worse secondary option.

They have tried #2, and when they didn’t work now they are onto #3.

I guess there is a 4th option – invent a time machine.

Getting there first does matter. Not just with domains, with virtually anything.

You can’t stumble unto the domain 25 years after .COM was released and just expect a great domain to be handed to you.

Brad

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By: Domainsville.com http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69359 Thu, 10 May 2012 19:59:43 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69359 We got the following response to our comment at http://loiclemeur.com/english/2012/05/we-just-switched-leweb-to-leweb-co-because-its-cool.html:

Hey “Domainsville” yeah I don’t deny having tried to get LeWeb.com and I agree it doesn’t seem that I did it the best possible way and I’m happy to dicuss and learn.

Where we will, however, never agree, is that it’s “right” that an empty page with google ads on it can squat for life a domain used by a brand like ours for good reasons. I get the “I got it first” part and understand it, but I think it’s a real shame and frankly, a pain for the whole industry.
No question some people make a business out of it, but it’s a pain.

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By: Kevin M. http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69358 Thu, 10 May 2012 19:22:15 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69358 @Joe – Because .co has no problem sponsoring the domain conferences and shows to ‘sell and promote’ their extension to audiences of 90%+ ‘domainers’, then they turn around and insinuate those domainers that buy ‘too many’ .co’s are – SQUATTERS!!! Uhh..DUHH! Didn’t have problems taking that ‘squatter money’ though did they?!?!? Calle just insulted all the domainers that bought/buy .co’s for any type of investment purposes, but your .co glasses and over admiration for JC (not the biblical one), keeps you from seeing that and the realities of that hack extension. Whatever.

Will be interesting to see now:
1) which upcoming domain conferences accept .co as a sponsor (to sell to ‘squatters’??)
2) .co renewals and how many will concede ‘they’re a squatter’, and give more of their ‘over priced’ renewal money to the one who just insinuated such.

Bet Calle’s favorite quote is from PT Barnum.

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By: Scott http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69357 Thu, 10 May 2012 19:12:32 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69357 @Joe Targeting .co to end users and startups is one thing, but I believe the backlash is coming from the fact that he called domainers “squatters”. Squatter is such a derogatory word in the domain industry in my opinion. It’s a word drenched in ignorance for those holding non-trademarked names.

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By: Joe http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69354 Thu, 10 May 2012 18:26:19 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69354 Why is everyone upset at JC’s words? He and his team have said like a million times that their target is endusers and not domainers and that’s why they set the $30 reg fee.

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By: Gnanes http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69353 Thu, 10 May 2012 18:25:40 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69353 .org is a better alternative than a .co.

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By: rob sequin http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69352 Thu, 10 May 2012 17:59:32 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69352 Loïc Le Meur
 is a douchebag.

At 1:37 in the video he says that leweb.com “has been taken since before we started leweb” and it is being used by the most famous domain squatter of Japan.

Boo Hoo.

You started your brand and now you are pissed because someone else registered the .com before you? What an ass.

He says he has been trying to buy it but he “can’t get it back”.

Get it back? Screw you Loic. How are you entitled to leweb.com?

Juan goes on to say that he is proud that .co is more expensive than .com because it is better and deters squatting?

Greed doesn’t have anything to do with it, Juan?

I was curious to know where this video was first posted. It was a you tube post by Loïc Le Meur
 here http://www.youtube.com/user/loiclemeur .

He has a video series called Build Your Own Brand which he runs from buildyourownbrand.tv NOT .com.

Maybe he can UDRP that one too.

What an idiot.

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By: Scott http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69351 Thu, 10 May 2012 17:44:08 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69351 @Rick Juan is probably already working on a way to spin what he said into something else. He had a big time Freudian slip and now people know he considers domainers (in any form) to be a squatter. I won’t be renewing my .co domains, that’s for sure.

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By: Jacek http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69350 Thu, 10 May 2012 17:37:48 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69350 This is HUGE !
Some of the Domain industry Tycoons go there

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By: Rick Schwartz http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69349 Thu, 10 May 2012 17:11:49 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69349 AS,
That video was very revealing and glad you pointed that out.
Referring to us as “SQUATTERS” is really a BAD move!

If we are squatters that the .co registry is a bunch of snake oil sales people because they KNOW what happened at Overstock.com and O.co with a 61% traffic loss because of confusion if I remember correctly.

This video is a window how some that take domainers money really feel about domainers and the domain industry. I am THRILLED it is on youtube!

Juan, I think you stepped in shit on that one. Funny huh??? Squatters??

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By: Rick Schwartz http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69348 Thu, 10 May 2012 17:04:51 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69348 Juan and his team have done a great job selling the concept. But the concept does not dovetail with increasing sales. It dovetails with loss of sales. It dovetails with confusion. It dovetails with many things that all make sales harder.

.Net to .Co is jumping from the Kettle to the Fire.
But the 3rd is a charm.
Congrats to the guy that owns LeWeb.com.
Traffic will be going up and someday these .net/.co guys might even figure it out.

Hint: The dotcom version is FREE when you factor in lost traffic and the lost business that happens day after day, month after month, year after year. Companies like this are afraid to do the math and afraid to ask SIMPLE “What if” questions.

This won’t be another Overstock moment because they are coming from a .net.

As for the video, every domainer should watch it.

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By: AS http://www.domaininvesting.com/video-why-leweb-moved-to-co/#comment-69347 Thu, 10 May 2012 16:53:35 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=14229#comment-69347 So .co pricing is designed to deter people from “squatting” ? Yet they sponsor parties and events at TRAFFIC and DFG to get domainers to “buy-in” to the extension as well. They also sell domains for premium prices, just like a “squatter” would do . Talking out both sides of your mouth here a bit no ?

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