Comments on: Why Publishing an Acquisition May Be a Good Idea http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/ Domain blog featuring domain investing strategy, domain valuation, and domain development commentary from Elliot Silver, founder of Top Notch Domains, LLC. Thu, 24 Apr 2014 10:32:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.7.3 By: Devon http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65294 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 18:58:02 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65294 Yep, this is true.

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65289 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 17:08:16 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65289 @ Devon

With almost no barriers to entry the business is filled with all types of people.

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By: Devon http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65288 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 17:05:05 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65288 @Elliot, I suppose the reason I’ve always kept a distance from having my own blog is because of ridiculous and dramatic comments. In some cases, if I were a buyer, it may not completely turn me off, but it would certainly make me have pause about the industry that you’re in. This is one of the best industries around, yet it does seem to be filled with more cry babies, amateurs, and unscrupulous mentally disturbed people than many other industries.

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65286 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:11:16 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65286 Visit was probably a bad example because of the high-value comps already out there. In verticals where there’re fewer comps, it might be beneficial.

Again, this is something that I wouldn’t do because it wouldn’t benefit my business, but it’s something that others might do.

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By: RH http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65285 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:08:50 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65285 Personally comps mean nothing to me, because first off I don’t really believe they are true comps. To take the VisitBoston.com example I would counter with all of Michael Berkens VisitGeo.com sales where he has told me he asks for very high prices to help the value of the visit names he still owns.

I view each name as unique if I wanted $8,000 and someone told me they bought a name similar because that’s all it can be, no two names are the same. I would say go back to that seller and would not reply again until their email said sold for $8,000.

Again IMO

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65278 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 14:46:42 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65278 @ Devon

Yeah, I assume many have since I use my name, and the blog comes back at #1 for searches of my name. I think it’s helpful because it shows I have a fairly strong web presence and am not going to disappear into thin air.

If anyone would need a reference, I can provide plenty from within the domain industry as well as representatives from large companies with whom I’ve done business flawlessly. I’ve volunteer references before, but nobody has ever asked for one.

Generally speaking, when I make a deal to buy or sell a domain name, I suggest Escrow.com, which removes most uncertainty anyway.

In addition, when you offer good money to buy a domain asset or you are offering a great domain asset at a fair price, that’s the most important thing.

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By: Devon http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65268 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 08:31:32 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65268 Elliot, just curious. Have any end users whom you’ve either attempted to sell or have sold to, ever read your blog posts and/or the often ridiculous commentary that often follows? Has there ever been any instances where it either hurt or helped a sale?

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By: Poor Uncle http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65258 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 04:15:33 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65258 Ha! I thought by definition, end user don’t get reseller price. Is there such a thing as non disclosure agree where the BUYER agree not to disclose his/her purchase price?

It seems kind of silly. I try to think of an instance where buyer would like to broadcast to the world when they gotten a good deal.

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By: Uzoma http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65256 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 03:32:29 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65256 Very well, this is my last post here. bye

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65255 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 03:30:21 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65255 @ Uzoma

You’ve been saying that for over a year and you never seem to follow through. By all means, stop wasting your time here. Good luck with your business. I really mean it and am not being sarcastic in wishing you well.

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By: Uzoma http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65254 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 03:26:42 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65254 Elliot,
I believe you, this is a popular blog. But let’s not forget that your blog is primarily for domainers. If I wasn’t domaining, what in the world would I be doing on this blog, or even Domaining.com?

Elliot, I hate to tell you this, because I’ve caught you in way too many hypocritical positions, if you don’t start doing things that benefit the industry, I will stop coming to this blog; I know you’d say “good riddance”, well, good riddance it’ll be. I’m not going to be blogging in a place where there’s recalcitrant, and obstinate selfishness, and hypocrisy.

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65253 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 03:26:32 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65253 Comps aren’t everything in a negotiation by any stretch but they are one tool that can be effective for a buyer and a seller.

Again, I personally haven’t used this tactic before.

Anyway, I’m on a mini vacation and an signing off for the night.

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65252 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 03:20:19 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65252 @. Uzoma

2,000 +/- people visit my blog every day and not all are domain sellers. I can think of two people off the top of my head who do this strategy and have told me it works sometimes. When they buy off of domain investors it doesn’t work as well. When they buy a name from one of the millions of other domain owners who don’t read blogs and they show them a comp in their favor it’s more effective.

This isnt something i do or would do, but it’s something that could benefit someone who does read my blog.

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By: Uzoma http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65250 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 03:13:02 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65250 Elliot,

Can you point to any domainer, or blogger whose business model is not selling? Everybody is a seller, everything is for sale, as they say in sales. Some people are analytic, some are expressive, some are patriotic, but all are salesmen and women. So, it really makes no sense when you use your “model”, by which you mean that you engage in selling domains full time, it doesn’t give you an excuse to be different. Let’s work together, join the industry, let’s have a uniform way of judging domain value, report your sales to the index like everyone else, you can make exceptions when the buyer requests anonymity. But your excuse that it may expose your cunning bargaining, is, well, frankly, …bullshit. I know you can see how reluctantly I said that. I had to say it.

@Nadia
Good for you. I have never seen you admonish Elliot all these years. It’s good to see you free yourself. You are right. Elliot is wrong.

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65248 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 02:53:18 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65248 Maybe how I wrote it was confusing. ┬áLet’s say I buy Visit names for development and got a great deal on VisitBoston.com for a few thousand dollars. I might consider reporting that purchase price so I can point to that price as a comparable when negotiating in the future. Yea, it might not matter much to a domain owner intent on selling his name for a price much higher than the reported price. However, someone without the extensive knowledge of the domain market may see it as a comp and adjust his price downward.

As someone who buys an resells names I would not want to report a great purchase price. However of selling wasnt my business model I would be more inclined to report a great deal in the hopes that it helps me on future acquisitions. Just a thought.

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By: Nadia http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65246 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 02:46:15 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65246 I’m sorry, I have to agree with the other posters on this. Unless I’m missing something, I don’t see how this would help anyone. We’re in agreement that there’s no across-the-board valuation system and that every domain is unique, but let’s say someone who invests in travel names acquires “Ski Tahoe” or “Vail” or a comparable name.

Because they bought on a handshake deal with a longtime colleague who had no use for it, they paid $1200. But $1200 clearly isn’t the *value of the name.* It’s a one-off “steal.” Do you think they’re going to want to advertise that?

Why would you advertise anything other than a transaction that (in most people’s eyes) reflects the true value of the name?

If someone was trying to buy that name from you, or any other successful investors, and used such a “comp” in negotiations, I don’t think it would go over very well.

Also – and I mean this with the utmost respect because I’m obviously a huge fan of your writing and visit this blog daily – I do think the post is slightly hypocritical, given that it’s not advice you’ve chosen to follow.

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65245 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 02:10:03 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65245 Some of the people with whom I do business are end users, and if they get a great purchase deal, they might want to report it to get better deals in the future.

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By: Poor Uncle http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65244 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 02:00:52 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65244 Yeah, Elliot. What you said kind of doesn’t make sense. If you buy and don’t sell, that would make you an end users. But as a reseller why would you want people to know u bought at a low price?

I thought that is why reseller doesn’t matter what industry they are in always keep the acquisition price a secret.

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By: Uzoma http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65241 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:08:10 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65241 Your article did not make that clear at all. I think you should speak for yourself on this, and let those who believe in publishing their sales speak for themselves. And, I don’t think you should publish sales data from Afternic, and Sedo etc.

This is my humble opinion, it’s your blog, I know.

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By: Elliot Silver http://www.domaininvesting.com/why-publishing-an-acquisition-may-be-a-good-idea/#comment-65240 Fri, 02 Mar 2012 23:55:19 +0000 http://www.domaininvesting.com/?p=13538#comment-65240 It’s beneficial for some people but not for my business.

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